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agreenwood
07-19-2009, 05:44 PM
Miura has a growth or... something... on the webbing in between her toes. It's about the size of a marble and the area around it is red and swollen. There is a growth beginning on her other foot too, I can feel a firm mass on the other foot in the webbing and see what looks like a callous starting to form. The skin around both front pads is pretty red.

She's going to the vet tomorrow and for the time being I have socks on both front feet to keep her from licking. I was thinking of giving her some Benadryl for the swelling and when she's knocked out from that, soak both front feet in water with epsom salt for as long as she'll let me and put fresh socks back on her while we're still awake to monitor her.

With any luck, trying to teach an 11 month old Great Dane wearing athletic socks to keep a foot resting in an empty basin is the oddest thing I have to explain for awhile. roflmao

I have no idea what's wrong. She could easily have been bitten by any number of different insects while playing in the yard, maybe got something imbedded in the skin, have an infected cut, I really don't know. It doesn't seem to be bothering her, she was running and playing yesterday like nothing was amiss. I didn't notice until she started licking it a lot today.

Any ideas? Benadryl, epsom salt soak and socks seem like a good strategy until we can get her in to see the vet? The emergency vet didn't seem to think it was anything to panic over despite how horrible the picture looks.

daneslave
07-19-2009, 05:50 PM
Hi yes that looks yucky.I see alot of dogs get these growths between their toes from allergies.I see it alot from food but i am sure she is on good food,Also can be something outside as you said let us know what the vet says.Good luck tomm.

isa aldawolfa
07-19-2009, 05:53 PM
wow ouch... sounds like you are doing the only things you can do... keep us posted.....

faust
07-19-2009, 06:01 PM
Wow that looks painful. I hope your vet can figure out what is going on there.

agreenwood
07-19-2009, 06:11 PM
50mg of Benadryl on board per the emergency vet recommendation over the phone. Her nose is kind of runny too. Miura is on TOTW Pacific Stream and seems to be doing well otherwise, a little itchy but I thought that was from shedding her puppy coat.

daneslave
07-19-2009, 06:23 PM
50mg of Benadryl on board per the emergency vet recommendation over the phone. Her nose is kind of runny too. Miura is on TOTW Pacific Stream and seems to be doing well otherwise, a little itchy but I thought that was from shedding her puppy coat.Hi sounds like a allergy.Did you try squeezing it is there any pus etc??Because some ingrown hairs will cause a pussy cyst.

faust
07-19-2009, 06:31 PM
It looks a lot like a hair or something(maybe a splinter or who knows) got embedded and then the area around it got quite angry.

bluebeetlemom
07-19-2009, 06:57 PM
I believe you said that there is another one starting on a different foot? Our lab used to get growths between his toes, and they were related to allergies. They started out not so bad, but by the time we figured out he had one (because he was licking them alot) they could get really nasty.

Gibson'sMom
07-19-2009, 08:13 PM
That is a very low dose of Banadryl. Hope it helps though. Let us know what the vet says tomorrow. You can give up to 1mg per pound of body weight of Benadryl 2 to 3 times a day. Good luck.

agreenwood
07-20-2009, 12:09 AM
She was pretty loopy on the 50mg but is 100% normal now, her feet don't seem to be bothering her at all as she chews on one of her bones. We'll be at the vet before breakfast tomorrow to get some idea of what is going on.

At least I know she tolerates socks pretty well, they only came off when the socks worked themselves down some and she would step on them with her back feet. I'm going to work with a couple friends to make doggie garter belts! :D //product line... hrm... //

Thank you everyone for working through this with me, I really appreciate it. Her poor toes, it will be ok!!!! We'll fix it. Thanks again, the paranoid mama is still panicking but I know it it will be fine. /confidence

Steeler Jackson
07-20-2009, 05:12 AM
I just got a chance to look at this thread but it could be a seed from the grass, dandylion (spelling ?), wheat, weeds, etc. My schnauzer got that same type of swelling in his paw and I took him to the vet. He had a seed embedded in his skin that was causing an allergic reaction!! Anyways, I am sure you are at the vet this morning so I hope it goes well!! Let us know....

empm
07-20-2009, 05:40 AM
Good luck! I'll be anxious to check here when I get off work this afternoon.

Gibson'sMom
07-20-2009, 07:13 AM
Hope the vet visit went well. Also wondering what you found out.

agreenwood
07-20-2009, 03:03 PM
It's a wart. She probably picked up the virus from camp (who I will be calling) and apparently there's not really anything to do but epsom salt soaks and to give her grape seed oil.

The vet visit itself was horrible, my regular vet didn't have an appointment until Friday so I saw someone else in the same office. I am calling them (didn't want to put up a fuss in front of a full waiting room) to make a note that I don't EVER want that woman anywhere near my dog again even in case of emergency.

Editing to add the proper name for it, viral papilloma.

MistyLyn
07-20-2009, 03:29 PM
First of all, I'm sorry your baby is having trouble. That DOES look painful. :( WHAT happened at the vet to upset you so much? Must have been awful!! Big hugs and hope you AND your girl are feeling better SOON.Hug3

agreenwood
07-20-2009, 04:07 PM
Awww, thanks Misty. :)

The vet was talking really loud and fast in a high-pitched voice which totally freaked out Miura. She reached for Miura's face quickly and grabbed her lip to take a look and when Miura pulled away, wouldn't touch her again at all. I was charged for a full exam when the vet only looked at her for a couple minutes, it would have been less time than that had I not insisted on her giving me more information.

Literally, the vet walked in saw Miura, froze as Miura sniffed her, looked at her foot from a few feet away as I lifted it up to show her and then announced, "It's a wart! Papilloma virus, does she go to day care? That's probably where she got it. Call them and let them know." That was when the vet tried to look in Miura's mouth, basically yelling at her the whole time and headed for the door only stopping when I told her to wait and give me more information. That was after she made me wait 40 minutes with a bored puppy. She didn't even tell me how to treat it until I asked.

My best guess is that the vet is afraid of big dogs. Pissed me off something fierce, I'm going back to see my regular vet for a full exam. She had the nerve to note that examining Miura was "extremely difficult". Well, maybe if you nfbsking handled her more gently instead of spooking her she'd be more cooperative! Sheesh.

It's not as red today, hopefully keeping her quiet, doing the epsom salt soaks and having her wear socks while we're around will help. Plus, the socks are hilarious.

empm
07-20-2009, 04:20 PM
What an ugly experience! I can't wait to hear what your regular Vet says about Miura's foot. Our Sadie had a wart on her forehead and the Vet removed it with no problem.

Steeler Jackson
07-20-2009, 04:34 PM
Aww...I am sorry you had a bad expirence. I think calling them is a good idea. I had to do that before and I was suprised that they told me I wasn't the first to complain about that particular vet!! I also can't wait to hear what the regular vet has to say Hug3

Merlyn
07-20-2009, 04:36 PM
Glad to hear it is not something very serious. Poor girl, it must be uncomfortable. I would tell my regular vet I expect to be reimbursed for such a half-assed exam, having such a rude doc, and that a 40 minute wait is ridiculous, your time is valuable too. I cannot imagine why one would become a vet if they are afraid of large dogs. There is one vet where we go that is afraid too, and the girls at the desk know not to even bother making me an appt with him. (Sorry to rant, that is one of my pet peevesbutthead1)

MistyLyn
07-20-2009, 04:38 PM
You were FAR more patient than I would have been!! I understand why, but man, I would have been ticked! I, too, think calling your regular vet is a fabulous idea--and hopefully he/she will insist you bring your baby back in for a FULL exam.

agreenwood
07-20-2009, 04:54 PM
I just talked to the receptionist and told them the situation. She apologized and made an appointment with Dr. Iverson on Saturday. He's pretty popular and is commonly booked up for weeks in advance. There's one spot available Friday but it'll be pretty hard to get out of work early enough to make it from Seattle (Fremont, actually) to Redmond. Traffic is horrible in the afternoons!

This time, I'll call before I leave to see what the wait time is *and* actually remember to bring a drool towel! Man, her shoelaces come all undone when she gets excited or nervous! There was big globs of drool all over. LOL

Gibson'sMom
07-20-2009, 06:00 PM
I hope your next visit is a more positive one. I'm also curious if he says it is the same thing. It helps to actually get close to the patient when diagnosing something! I can't believe how many people on DOL say vets are scared of giant breeds! Small dogs are much more likely to bite you.

melisa22jo
07-20-2009, 07:10 PM
So sorry that you had a bad vet experience. I hope your next appointment is much better. Hopefully you will get a more consise diagnosis, so Miura can be on the road to recovery!

agreenwood
07-26-2009, 08:26 AM
We went back to see our regular vet yesterday, it went MUCH better. He's about 90% sure that it is, in fact, viral papilloma since there are several occurrences now.

I opted to not do a biopsy, surgical removal, or even anti-inflammatory medication since she doesn't seem to be in pain. The swelling has reduced dramatically on it's own.

She is on Grape Seed Extract three times a day to treat the papillomas plus the regular MSM, glucosamine, salmon oil, and Vitamin C.

She has shoes for her front feet but can't seem to keep them on straight when the zoomies hit! It does look awfully silly, I'll get some pics soon.