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Old 10-01-2007, 07:44 AM
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Default Why are Geat danes on the cdc Dangerous dog list , Please Help

It been a long time since I've posted here.
So to make a long story short My Husband and I have to Great danes
Lilly who is 7 and Parker who is 3, and we have no other children and will mostly no be able to have them . So we though we would become Foster Parents ( for Humans), and every thing seemed fine till we got the call to day telling us that Great danes were on the Dangerous dog list . I'm confused as to why .
Is It bad Breeding or bad owner's . I'm asking becouse we have to write up a reason at why we will not give up our dog. And telling them becouse we love them doesnt seem to be good enough .
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Old 10-01-2007, 07:53 AM
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Default RE: Why are Geat danes on the cdc Dangerous dog list , Please Help

It mainly has to do with their size. A Great Dane bite can cause a lot more damage than the bite of a small dog.

One thing that might help is if you can obtain a CGC - [link:www.akc.org/events/cgc/program.cfm|Canine Good Citizen] - on your dog(s).

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Old 10-01-2007, 07:56 AM
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Probably both, bad breeding and bad owners. A dog this size can do alot of damage when they bite. So, you have to choose between the dogs and the kids? I can see tho where they wouldn't want to place children in a home with dogs as large as the ones we have.
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Default RE: Why are Geat danes on the cdc Dangerous dog list , Please Help

I am sure it is has to do exclusively with SIZE.
Many people don't realize that biting is not the only thing that can make dogs dangerous.
Readers of Dog World may remember- There was a lawsuit once with a Great Pyr that jumped on people. Owner didn't think it was a dig deal. A guy bent over to pet the dog in public and the dog jumped and caught him in the head and broke his jaw. The guy sued and won.
Dogs than can easily knock people over, especially children are often considered dangerous.

Many people get a cold shock when applying for foster care OR have a custody fight. MANY agencies feel harboring large dogs, certain dog breeds, reptiles and almost any exotic pet (parrots) are poor choices for families with children regardless of the circumstances.

Be very frank with the agencies you are working with, and find out what the exclusions are, and how to best go about acheiving them.

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Default RE: Why are Geat danes on the cdc Dangerous dog list , Please Help

We do have CgC's on both dogs, and we have been up front with them about our dogs. We never once lied about their size temperment , and both have been in training since they were both resued.
Simply becouse we were not sure how they had been treated in their last homes'and we wanted to make sure they were safe and so were we .
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I'm going to guess that their list is based on statistics. Don't know the source of these statistics, though.

At one point in time, Great Danes had killed more people than any other breed of dog. (This was before the Cane Corsa and some of those others became popular.) Don't know where the Pitbull fits in here, as they are not an AKC breed, so few are registered with the American Pit Bull organization (forget the actual name), and so many are crossbred.

Have your Danes been around children a lot?

Have they completed one or more formal manners or obedience classes?

Do either have a CGC?

Would you be willing to start intensive traiing with your dogs?

You might contact the CDC to find out just exactly how Danes got on their list and to make sure the Foster Children program in your state has an up-to-date list.

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Ok, I am going to make a snarky comment, I'm just having one of those days...

Did you know that lightning kills more people each year than dogs do? So I assume you can't adopt or foster children where it rains then?

Sorry, couldn't help myself. :P
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Default RE: Why are Geat danes on the cdc Dangerous dog list , Please Help

Pit Bulls top the list Danes are #8 and from my study and Looking on line there has only been 6 bite's since 2000 and 3 of those they are saying were mixed breeds ( so they really dont know for sure if they really were danes or not. )
Both Lilly and Parker have been through all traing we had though about service training Parker for my husband , but he doesnt need it right know and Yes Both Have their CGC.
I guess what is really killing me here is they have know we had Great danes Since we sighned up since we had to provide them with all their records , and I do not know how you could guarantee that any dog wouldnt bite. I my self was bited by a dog when I was little , and I have to say if I was affraid of any of my Fur babys who live here I would give them to good home who could handle them.
Also OUr Danes are very social animals and are around kids all the time , we have kids in our neiborhood who fight ove who get's to walk them . ( it's really cute ) see Keanna whos is 6 walk my 40inchs tall parker.
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Default RE: Why are Geat danes on the cdc Dangerous dog list , Please Help

I found it interesting that any MIXES of the breeds listed were also listed. Exactly how were THOSE dogs idenified?
I would be curious if BITES are the only criteria. My father in law had to go in for stitches when his Rott pawed him in the face. Would that have been reported? hmmm
I'd start will calling the CDC...

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However, in the latest report available from the Centers for Disease Control on non-fatal dog bite statistics (2001), one does not find any reference to specific dog breeds involved. In fact, the CDC themselves warn that the bite statistics are unreliable because not all dog bites are reported, nor are all the breeds involved in the incidents accurately identified. The CDC states in the report that the latest comprehensive data of dog bite statistics is from 1994. The 1994 statistics state that more than 4.7 million people are bitten annually with more than 799,000 requiring medical treatment. Therefore, the supporters of BSL are citing statistics that are over 12 years old at best and unreliable at worst.



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So the Foster Parents people sent you a copy of their list? What was the source.

Seems you could send them photocopies of your dogs' CGC certificates. Many insurance companies accept CGC certificates as evidence of good behaviour.

Wonder if this sort of thing happens if one tries to adopt a baby?

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